Created & Lost
Created & Lost
Point to ponder. God is the creator but does he have control over his creation. If you look at the things logically you will understand that anything that is created is for a purpose. Its end result is very much in the view of the creator when he decides to create something. Similar to that concept God also has the end result predetermined.
But as any object there is a chance of malfunction and misuse. If that happens the object is either condemned or repaired. By repairing the object it is again put to use for the purpose it was meant to be. If it is of no use then it is condemned. Also there is fixed life for the object & never can it go on & on for ever. As the object is given a guide line for best performance similarly mankind is given a guideline for best performance.
But the irony is the object after being created is at the mercy of the user and the creator has no control over it, mankind also I believe is completely out of control of its creator.
Let me give a simple example to make my point clear.
The creator of a chair is a carpenter & the creator is always outside the object. So is God as he has created the universe & everything within. He as per logic should be surely outside the universe. Our mind is limited to comprehend God. I believe in supreme power. Common sense says there is something more powerful than us. But all the rest doesn’t make sense. For example in the case of the object, chair, the carpenter has no control over it as soon as it goes out from his hand. Who use it, damage it or whatever is not under his control and that is the same logic with human creation. God’s job is done with the creation and whatever happens after that is all independent of his creation. It is action, reaction & consequences. It leads from one stage to another & all are consequences of deviation from the guide line.
Like the chair if it is used for the purpose it is created, it serves the purpose, but if used other than for the purpose, then its action has different connotation & the creator can only stand by and watch.
The reality is as the deviation by mankind has already occurred from the guideline he set for us to follow what we now see is consequences of the deviation. The creator is just watching. This I think will explain the reason why God is not in Muslim Ummahs side & we find destruction all around us.We time and again ask ourselves why is God not helping us? He simply cannot because we already have deviated. We have to bear the consequences and that is the rule of law.
What I mean is we have taken a different course.Can we come back into the right course is the point to ponder........
Point to ponder. God is the creator but does he have control over his creation. If you look at the things logically you will understand that anything that is created is for a purpose. Its end result is very much in the view of the creator when he decides to create something. Similar to that concept God also has the end result predetermined.
But as any object there is a chance of malfunction and misuse. If that happens the object is either condemned or repaired. By repairing the object it is again put to use for the purpose it was meant to be. If it is of no use then it is condemned. Also there is fixed life for the object & never can it go on & on for ever. As the object is given a guide line for best performance similarly mankind is given a guideline for best performance.
But the irony is the object after being created is at the mercy of the user and the creator has no control over it, mankind also I believe is completely out of control of its creator.
Let me give a simple example to make my point clear.
The creator of a chair is a carpenter & the creator is always outside the object. So is God as he has created the universe & everything within. He as per logic should be surely outside the universe. Our mind is limited to comprehend God. I believe in supreme power. Common sense says there is something more powerful than us. But all the rest doesn’t make sense. For example in the case of the object, chair, the carpenter has no control over it as soon as it goes out from his hand. Who use it, damage it or whatever is not under his control and that is the same logic with human creation. God’s job is done with the creation and whatever happens after that is all independent of his creation. It is action, reaction & consequences. It leads from one stage to another & all are consequences of deviation from the guide line.
Like the chair if it is used for the purpose it is created, it serves the purpose, but if used other than for the purpose, then its action has different connotation & the creator can only stand by and watch.
The reality is as the deviation by mankind has already occurred from the guideline he set for us to follow what we now see is consequences of the deviation. The creator is just watching. This I think will explain the reason why God is not in Muslim Ummahs side & we find destruction all around us.We time and again ask ourselves why is God not helping us? He simply cannot because we already have deviated. We have to bear the consequences and that is the rule of law.
What I mean is we have taken a different course.Can we come back into the right course is the point to ponder........
posted by AHSAN GHORI @ 1:20 AM
14 Comments:
At 9:30 PM,
Anonymous said…
The Princess said... 6:39 PM | 25/Sep/06 | |
Exactly! Your last line says it all ! well-written :)
At 10:36 PM,
Anonymous said…
sapna sood said... 10:23 PM | 26/Sep/06 | |
excellent work
At 11:07 PM,
Anonymous said…
Hello AHSAN GHORI,
Salaam:
Being the curious person that I am does your location indicate
that you are in Puerto Rico?
Also, your conversation on God does not match what may seem
illogical to you, but when you look at the Quran, Allah
subhanah wa ta'ala says we have the choice and we surely wrong
ourselves. This is not like the Christian notion that we are
born in sin and therefore, need God to save us, in Islam, we
are born with our qadr which is written on every soul in the
womb. Still, we can make choices that will get us to the right
path, inshaAllah, even though we are midguided.
Yet, only Allah can guide those whom seek his guidance. The
problem is today, the medium sized portion of little,
erroneous, mankind, has decided that he is better then any God
especially Allah.
Mankind is modern, he knows best, there is no need for any
supreme being that can not be rationalized, manipulated, and
controlled.
Your anology of the carpenter and the chair are not entirely
useful, when thinking that the chair has no control over what
happens to it and it has no free will.
Mankind is a wild, manegy, beast, these days that has
relinguished his rights to rule this earth which is why it's
run a muck. There are many who perfer meat cleavers to using
their hands and sending missiles to sending messages.
Fi Iman Allah
At 11:11 PM,
Anonymous said…
Asalamu alaikum mariyam,
To answer about your curiousity I am basically from India.
You have misunderstood me completely. I know about free will and man choosing right & wrong. The analogy about chair having no control is not actually about the chair. It is about the carpenter having no control of his object & circumstances. Not that he cannot have control but doesn’t have control. Hence the consequences of chair being misused or properly used.
I also said God has given guideline and if we follow properly then the purpose is served & if we deviate we need to face the consequences.As simple as that.
At 10:47 PM,
Anonymous said…
No no no never little Ahsan,
God is observing and has ultimate grip over each being and non beings of the universe. HE is most nearer to everything and HE is a creator. HE writes the fate of every existence and solid grip over HIS creation unlike carpenter. A little Ahsan thinks world according to his little brain and wit whereas GOD does everything according to HIS knowledge and wit and HE is almighty. God makes every wrong and good himself. It does never means that HE has no control on wrong as massacring and bad evil is going on. All phenomenas are happenings according to written fate of the world.It does not mean that it is out of control of God.
It is very similar that when a carpenter makes a chair and if he knows that this chair will have cracks for 3 days in coming month so it does not mean that this chair is out of carpenter's range. Rather this carpenter will have solution to re-build the cracks of this chair and if this carpenter is so highly knowledgeable that he will have strongly confident than before and so on. .... Unlike God is a creator of this carpenter and every existences. so if there is bad wrong doing happens in the world then it is due to best fate written according to God and a little Ahsan cannot assess it.
Why little Ahsan thinks his own knowledge to be parallel to God 's.
o Ahsan u really seem to be pathetic at this stage.
i m not impress with u really. oops
Best Regards,
Maratib Ali Shad
At 10:48 PM,
Anonymous said…
You are absolutely right Mr & I value your opinion.
Now If you can make an attempt to think about what I have written then you can really follow what I am saying.
Let this little brain explain further to big brain. When I say consequences that one has to face, I do not mean that it is not fate. It is actually the law of deviation. For example if you draw a straight line from one point to another point with no deviation it is perfect but when there is a deviation it does not reach the point you intended instead reaches some other destination. It doesn't mean that the person drawing the line is not aware of it but rather helpless because he already deviated & he cannot reach the intended point. He needs correction to reach the intended point. All these laws are written by almighty and he cannot help unless the deviated people correct themselves. This is the real crux of the matter this little brain has written. All these happenings, natural disasters, destructions the chaos in this world is because of the deviation and I only appeal people to correct themselves according to the guidelines given by God himself.
When I mean he has no control, I do not mean in the literal sense but in the sense that he is not tampering with the laws he already made. Action - Deviation -Consequences. As simple as that.
Ahsan
At 9:55 PM,
Anonymous said…
sasindran poomadham said... 7:38 PM | 29/Sep/06 | |
Yes it is tru that once He did the creation he has no control over it. Out of HIS creation Human beings are the only one with the choice of evolution up or down. We have to use our will and wisdome to evolve out of this existence. All other creations evolve automatically to the next higher level. Once we get out of this level then also evolution is automati. This human existence is in between, we have to choose whether to go up or down!!!
At 12:11 AM,
Anonymous said…
sheeba suresh said... 3:25 PM | 1/Oct/06 | |
its a known fact to many unknow people
At 12:12 AM,
Anonymous said…
Vandana Prabhakar said... 4:54 PM | 1/Oct/06 | |
I don''t think god does not have any control over what is happening in this world. He controls everything. He decides everything. Whatever is happening in this world good or bad is his wish. We are just puppets in his hand. The puppet thinks he is taking his course, but there is always the string which just can pull you out from one place and put somewhere else where you are made to play a different role.I dont think we are left to live our own lifes by the creater. There might be freedom but the ultimate wish is HIS.
At 12:13 AM,
Anonymous said…
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Hi Ahsan, Do you mean to say that God is subject to laws he has put down? I Kind of agree with that. Seems paradoxical, but then what isn't? Perhaps its His choice that the laws cover Him, or... ?
Regards
Shiva
At 12:13 AM,
Anonymous said…
Hi shiv
Yes, It is his choice to be within the laws he created because if he changes as per the situation warrants, then it means that he misjudged the future and this is impossible. Since, he is the symbol of perfection, all the laws he laid should be perfect in the first place. Now what we are doing is following the sequence & if we cannot we face the con-sequence.
If you do as he says you get what you deserve & if not you still get what you deserve for not obeying his command. Like the celestial objects in orbit all seem in perfect harmony but if it is out of the given course (deviates) it crashes or goes into oblivion. Everything is set from beginning to end. He knows the beginning and he knows the end. He also knows no one can change the Laws he has made because it is the perfect law and no alterations in that.
At 9:30 PM,
Anonymous said…
Hi again Ahsan,
Looks like, we have free will and true to form, we are screw-ing it all up ! :) But will he step in to save His creation?
Regards
shiv
At 9:32 PM,
Anonymous said…
Hi shiv
Yes, we have free will no doubt about that & yes, we are screwing it up because we have deviated from the path he wanted us to follow, and now we are facing the consequences for that deviation we made. My belief is God will not step up and change the laws he made in the first place to save the creation as we ex-pect, but I hope his creation will realize the folly and correct themselves and follow the right path(guideline),and thereby come back to the right course, and then humanity will be saved from the disaster. It is imperative that people un-derstand this basic sooner than later, instead of pleading and expecting a mira-cle of sorts to happen or live in the false belief that no harm will occur to one community over other because it is blessed and continue with the deviated course. The rules are already laid and they have no amendments coz the rules are perfect always as it came from almighty. No shortcuts, but only way out is follow, follow & follow the rules of almighty. There will be peace & harmony for sure if we do that. Everything will be perfectly balanced. With this, I think I have made my point very clear.
Regards,
Ahsan
At 9:07 PM,
Anonymous said…
Noushadali kc said... 4:07 PM | 24/Oct/06 | |
Very good thought infact and well written.How ever,the example used is not perfect to describe the view.Very true that the carpenter does not have any control over the chair after its made.Because the intention behind the making of the chair is actuelly for the comfort and private use of the person who has ordered for it. Just consider for instance, that the carpenter is an architect with great software skills, and he is programmed it so it can be controlled as per his intention.. or that the carpenter has perfectly set a bomb and timed it to terminate the user..With a remote control devise he can get his wish done.Better and stronger people like hitler, nepolian, ashoka, gandhi, etc lived and died in this world before us. Even they had a very little time. No one could ever predict their death, extend their life or even make any comment about it. Our life here is like an examination. Even if you write your paper well, your examinor still has a controll over it. Let god show mercy..
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